Besses o' th' Barn Band

My wife's grandfather was Fred Berry who appears to have been a member of the band from at least 1907 (he is named in the New Zealand photo) and toured with the band to Canada (at least) 1910-1920. That is the last we can find of him in the band, unless someone else knows differently!

Any info most welcome as we lost track of him entirely after 1924.

Great new site, and Fleetwood was a top result - keep it up!
Nick Sanders and Phil McCauley. Gorden Dean. Obviously Dave Aston. A few names from the past. Very sad to hear of Roy's death and just over 8 years ago now that Ifor passed away. I had Horn lessons with him in the band room for a short while and learned a great deal. I remember the BBC Band competition victory in 1978.

I think that JC Wright Band (conductor) was my grandfather and Fred Wright was his brother. He played the cornet for Farnworth Old band I believe and was at one time, the oldest band member of the Farnworth band playing and marching into his eighties.
I would dearly like a digital copy of the photo showing the band in Whitefield in 1937 on your website (underneath the chaps going to Canada) which shows Fred Wright on the second row and a photo and any info of James Wright would be wonderful as I could show it to his surviving daughter Priscilla, who is 91! Any digital copies of photos and documents of the band relating to James and Fred Wright would be gratefully received and I will have a look in my photos to see if we have any to give to you. I hope you can help,

regards,

Wes Wright, grandson of James Wright and great nephew of Fred Wright.

Patrick Edgar is one of the Oldest Existing members of Besses Band and Besses Boys (player and then Conductor)
He learned to play in the 1930’s and moved to Soprano when the famous Percy Mott left Besses to join the RAF Band in the late 1930’s
He was one of the original players in the newly formed Besses Boys Band in 1943.
Prior to the 1939-1945 war Besses Band was fit for anything but unfortunately 13 members were called up to HM Forces and from then on the band struggled.. As well as the players the band lost its conductor Mr William Wood. and his place was taken by Mr J C Wright formerly Bandmaster. As time went on Mr Wright voiced his opinion that the only way to rebuild Besses was by training young boys. His advice was overlooked at the time.
On May 4th 1943 the Band Secretary F. Cowburn founded what was known as the Alexander Owen Brass Band Festival. Brass Band contests were held in Whitefield in The Grounds of Stand Grammar School for Girls. The festival committee had another look at Mr Wrights advice and decided to take it on board and at a meeting on Oct 11 1943 it was decided :- That a class for beginners be formed and to be under the charge of Nathan Snape..
The first boys to sign up were J F Cowburn aged 8, S Warburton 14, R Curless 11 and H Galloway 12. These four boys were trained and in December to a reasonable standard and it was decided to take them round to various parts of the village to let the public see what was achieved, also to induce other boys to join. Members of the committee took collecting boxes and the magnificent sum of £6 was raised. At one time 120 boys were being trained.
In 1945 the band entered the NW area contest under the auspices of the Daily Herald Brass Band Championship. Test piece own choice, the band chose Pirates of Penzance” and won. They then went to the finals at Belle Vue ,test piece “Poetic Fancies”. Despite drawing No 1 the band won the championship.
Players who took place in the 1st contest were.
Solo Cornets:- Allan Stringer, Kenneth Sanderson and Brian Whiteside.
Rep:- Jim Cowburn
2nd cornet:- Pat Edgar
3rd cornet:- Allan Chapman and Frank Barnett.
Horns:- Frank Bryce,Wallace Birchall and Jimmy Hill.
Euph:- Stanley Warburton
Baritone:- Roland Curliss Albert Barrington.
Troms:- Jacky Troughton, Allan Hilton and Joe Richardson
Basses:- Jack Rogerson. Edward Parkinson and Harold Bernstein.
No soprano but Alan Stringer played all sop parts.
Mr. Wright conducted both bands. Most of the above played in both bands.

Patrick Edgar came to the Besses Bandroom last Tuesday night (8th Nov 2011), and I managed to introduce myself and let him know that I am researching the Bands history for a new Biography.
Patrick began to relate to me lots of names and tit bits relating to Besses from his time withe the Band.
I was struck by his little story about his very early years when he was a young lad learning to play Soprano Cornet
His story goes more or less as follows
“Aye, I remember going for a lesson with old Mr Snape (Nathan Snape). He lived in @@@@ street tha knows. Just round the corner in Whitefield. Aye, I remember that I was playing in his sitting room while Mr Snape had his hands cupped in his lap as he sat snug in his armchair in front of the cosy fire and with his head down in concentration. I played my musical piece and it was a very sentimental Aire. I cannot remember the name of the tune or ballad. Well I finished playing and I thought that I had done alright and was well chuffed with maself. Mr Snape was silent and was rubbing his hands whilst he shook his head and gathered his thoughts together ............................................... Ehhe young lad,.......... tis clear that thas’ never been in Love !!!!!............. ha ha ha. It fair makes me laugh when I remember that night!”

This story made me laugh and I will meeting with Patrick and all the other existing ex players to record stories like the above as I know that there are going to be some absolute gems that need to be documented and recorded

Hey guys,

I would just like to say it is such a shame that the legend himself Roy Newsome has died and that is was a pleasure to work with him during my time at Besses.

I would like to say that my heart and thoughts goes out to his family and friends at this sad time.

Alyson

Greetings Besses,
I posted a comment on the 1905 history page but doesn't seem to be there.
Anyroad, there was a request if anyone had a medal from the Entente Cordiale celebrations in France. Well I have one! Or rather it's winging its way to me as I write this. It was presented to my great grandfather Joseph Hardman who played in the band between 1890-odd to 1914 and went on both world tours. When I get it from my cousin, I will bring it up to the band. In the meantime, I will attach a photo of it if I can work out this email thingy.
Best regards,
Jock

I notice you are coming to Towneley Park
On 19th June. My Greatgrandad went round the world with the band and I have all his diaries plus a photograph of the band at that time. Obviously I can't let them go but if
you would like to see them please contact me. If you would like to leave a phone no.
and we can discuss them
Regards
Ann Bent

Hi guys, obscure question.
I am doing some family history research and came across Besses o' th' Barn...

Does anyone have any family/friends/neighbours with a surname of Hilton if so I would love to know.

many thanks

Roger

Many Congratulations to everyone involved in the win at Fleetwood last month. Was part of the Band that won Yeovil Entertainments Contest in the 90s....onwards and upwards

Best Wishes

Nick Sanders (Besses 1983 -1997)
Treloquithack, Cornwall

Just browsing your site and pleased to see 'Cleggy' is still playing - a bit surprised - never saw him as a 'heavy end man'